Ritalin

[newone]

My neuro has prescribed Ritalin to use on a as needed basis. I'm wondering how effective it is if I use it on a "as needed " basis. I have difficulties concentrating, focusing to varying degrees everyday - once in a while I have a "good day' and able able to be productive for a couple of hours but it's not very often. The drug also works in varying degrees. Hope I'm making sense. Fatigue is a major problem as well. I have provigil for that.

[Abby2006]

I would not take it

Abby

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Ritalin Helps....
but what about the side effects?
Carol E. Watkins, M.D.
Glenn Brynes, Ph.D., M.D.



The stimulants are often used to treat AD/HD and other conditions. The most common stimulants are methylphenidate (Ritalin, Concerta, Metadate-ER) and amphetamine (Dexedrine, Dexedrine Spansules, Adderall and Adderall XR.) We have been using these medications for years. Despite some dramatic media reports, the stimulants have a fairly good safety record.

When a medication gives you a symptom that you did not want, we call that symptom a side effect. Many individuals take stimulants with few side effects. Others experience mild problems. Some are simply unable to tolerate stimulants. Often we can treat annoying side effects so the individual can continue to take the stimulant. Too many people stop their medication instead of working with their physician to find a way to decrease side effects. On the other hand, stimulants can have the potential for real side effects. This is why it is a good idea to keep in close contact with your doctor, especially during the early stages of treatment.

Often we can treat side effects so you can continue to take your medication.
Instead of stopping your medication, work with your physician to find a way to reduce side effects.


Reduced appetite: This effect may be worse in the very young. It may improve after several weeks or months. If it continues to be problematic, one may reduce the dose; or time a short-acting stimulant to wear off before mealtimes. Some people find that methylphenidate compounds have slightly less appetite suppression than amphetamine compounds. In some cases we resign ourselves to a eating a large breakfast and supper followed by a very small lunch. A late evening snack can also help. Some non-stimulant AD/HD medications do not cause the same degree of appetite suppression.

Rebound: Some people who take short acting methylphenidate or amphetamine experience irritability or depression for an hour as the stimulant wears off. Sometimes this is worse than the individual’s behavior before the medication was started. One can avoid rebound by spacing the doses closer together, giving a smaller dose after the final larger dose, or by switching to a longer acting stimulant. Recently several new long-acting stimulant preparations have been released. Although the long-acting compounds often have less rebound, it may still occur in susceptible individuals. Sometimes, we add a tiny dose of short-acting stimulant when the longer-acting stimulant wears off.

Headache: If this does not improve with time, we may reduce the dose or switch to another stimulant. Sometimes caffeine restriction helps. However, if an individual with a heavy caffeine habit suddenly stops the caffeine he may get a caffeine withdrawal headache. If the caffeine cessation happens at the same time as the start of the stimulant, the caffeine withdrawal headache may be mistaken for a stimulant side effect.

Jittery feeling: Eliminate caffeine or other stimulant-type medications. A small dose of a beta-blocker (a type of blood pressure medication) can block tremor or jitters. Make sure that the individual is eating regular meals.

Gastrointestinal upset: Take the medication with meals or eat smaller, more frequent meals.

Sleep difficulty: It is a good idea to take a sleep history before starting a stimulant medication. Sometimes the sleep problem is due to the AD/HD, not the medication. If the sleep problem is truly due to medication effect, we have several options. Sleep difficulty is more common when one is using a long-acting stimulant or if one is giving a short-acting stimulant in the evening. Now that there are more long-acting stimulants on the market, one can often eliminate this problem by using one of the more intermediate-length stimulants. Clonidine or guanfacine may help decrease agitation and may also facilitate sleep. We also counsel the individual on establishing good sleep habits. Paradoxically, there are a few individuals who sleep better when they take a small dose of stimulant in the late evening. For these individuals, the stimulant helps slow racing thoughts and helps them lie still in their beds.

Irritability: Sometimes irritability may be due to the AD/HD or another psychiatric disorder. If the irritability is truly due to the stimulant, one might reduce the stimulant dose, switch to a different stimulant, add an SSRI, (paroxetine, sertraline) an alpha agonist (clonidine/guanfacine) or use another class of medications to treat the AD/HD.

Depression: This may occasionally be a delayed effect of stimulant medication. It may be more common with the long-acting stimulants. Screening for a history of depression, and treating co-existing depression can minimize this. If the depression truly is related to the medication, one may switch to another class of medications to treat the AD/HD. These second-line medications would include the tricyclic antidepressants, bupropion (Wellbutrin) and atomoxetine (Strattera.)

Anxiety: If an individual is anxious, the stimulants can exacerbate the symptoms. The treatment of this side effect is similar to that of depression. It may be best to treat a co-existing anxiety disorder before treating the AD/HD.

Blood glucose changes: Individuals with diabetes mellitus or borderline glucose tolerance could potentially see a rise in blood sugar. On the other hand, if the stimulant cuts one's appetite, one may use less insulin. Individuals with diabetes can often take stimulants but may need closer monitoring of their diabetic control.

Increased blood pressure: Stimulants may cause increases in blood pressure or pulse. This is usually not significant at normal doses in most people. However occasionally, the blood pressure effects can be significant. Individuals on very high doses of stimulants or individuals at risk for blood pressure problems should be monitored more closely. Some adults may opt to continue the stimulant and add a blood pressure medication. A small open study suggested that adults who were well controlled on their blood pressure medications could take amphetamine without significant increases in blood pressure. Individuals with blood pressure changes need to discuss the risks and benefits with their physicians. (1)

Tics and stereotyped (repetitive) movements: In the past we rarely gave stimulants to individuals with tics because we believed that the stimulant would make the tics worse. Recent data seems to indicate that low to moderate doses of amphetamine or methylphenidate do not exacerbate tics. If an individual has tics, or develops them while on a stimulant, it should be discussed with the prescribing physician. The patient and physician should then carefully weigh the risks and potential benefits or medication treatment.

Psychosis or paranoia: These are rare side effects. They may occur in an individual who is already predisposed to a bipolar disorder or another psychotic disorder. In a few cases, psychosis has occurred in individuals who have no previous history of bipolar disorder or psychosis. Psychosis may also occur when someone takes a stimulant overdose. It is important to screen for and treat certain other psychiatric disorders prior to starting a stimulant. If psychosis occurs while taking a stimulant, one should immediately stop the medication and call the prescribing doctor.

Seizures: Several studies have suggested that individuals whose epilepsy is well-controlled on medication can safely take stimulants. A small study suggested that asymptomatic individuals with an abnormal EEG might be at increased risk of seizures when they take stimulants. (2)

Sudden Death: There are anecdotal accounts of individuals who died suddenly died while taking stimulants. However, the incidence of these cases does not appear to exceed the incidence of individuals in the overall population who die in this manner. (3)

1) Wilens et al, An Open Label Study of the Tolerability of Mixed Amphetamine Salts in Adults with Attention Deficit/Hyperactivity Disorder and Treated Essential Hypertension, J. Clin. Psychiatry 67.5 2006

2) Hemmer s, et al Stimulant Therapy and Seizure Risk in Children with ADHD, Pediatric Neurology Vol 24 No.2; Elsevere Science Inc. 2001

3) ADHD Individual Drug Risk Studies To Be Considered By Drug Safety Committee. Press release. February 8, 2006. Available at: Only registered and activated users can see links., Click Here To Register... Committees/Drug+Safety+and+Risk+Mgmt/020906_ADHD/020906_ADHD-P.htm. Accessed 3/16/2006.

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This stuff is REAL scary

Abby

[houghchrst]

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there are also some forums that have people that are taking it as needed so that you get more than just medical information because not everyone has the same symptoms and experiences. I simply Googled 'taking ritalin as needed'. I learned something too. I thought Ritalin was a continuous dosing med not as needed.

Don't let the medical info scare ya too much because this may be something that works for you. Just follow doc's instructions and if you begin to feel worse than you did before you started taking it call your doc. If you are getting nothing from it, no benefit, then let your doc know and he/she may increase it or change it.

They usually recommend giving it 4-6 weeks to let it really begin to settle in and let it work but I have no idea how often you think you might need it. Daily, couple times a week/month.

I started taking my pain meds and the first three or four times I took it I did not like the way they made me feel but they worked on my pain so I kept on and after a while that nasty feeling went away and they still worked pretty good.

I hope the Ritalin helps.

[newone]

Thanks! OH, those cognitive impairments - never thought to google it! LOL

[houghchrst]

Yer not alone. Most days I can barely remember my name lol.

[ssusan]

Gee, I love Ritalin. I take it on an as need basis. I always take 1 before I go to work for energy and clarity, before a meeting... I only work 2x a week and probably have a third day of something. For me it's VERY effective; helps burn through any fog...

I used to take a lot (most days, sometimes more than once) but since Amyra I am taking much less.

~Susan

[Lazarus]

ritalin

Hi,
My experience is like SSusan's. I used to take more ritalin before I started Ampyra.
Ritalin was sonderful. It kept me alert and thinking.

I always used it on an as need basis. I used it almost daily when I was still teaching and I use it now if I am going to a meeting, a concert or dinner party. Anytime I know I have to be especially alert.

I never had any uncomfortable side effects.

[SalpalSally]

My CNS and stimulants of any kind do not like each other at all!!! Cannot take them, but envy those who can.

My Prosac has a bit of an energy booster and I seem to tolerate that. Probably because it also stablizes my mood, as well?

[newone]

What dosage Ritalin do you take? Glad to hear it helps when you take it on an as needed basis - someone told me it was something you had to take a couple of times daily.