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    #1

    Protandim ?

    This supplement was researched (40 years) and developed by Dr. Joe McCord, and has been researched by a number of medical researchers in many universities. Dr. David Purlmutter (neurologist) is also on the video. There was a ABC Primetime report on it 7 years ago and it is supposed to erradicate the free radicals in our bodies. Montel Williams has done a video on it. Has anyone here tried it? This is one of the You Tube videos.....You can access many others from this site.

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    Gabriella
    Last edited by Gabriella7; 07-01-2012, 09:04 PM.
    Progressive/Relapsing MS, Myasthenia Gravis, Spinal Stenosis, Degenerative Disc Disease, Diabetes, Hypertension, Hashimoto's Thyroiditis
    Advocate for ADA, Artist's Community for Change, ADAPT, Universal Living in Place, HopeKeepers, Complementary and Alternative Medicine

    "Life is mostly froth and bubble, two things stand like stone. Kindness in another's trouble, Courage in your own"........Adam Lindsay Gordon
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    #2
    It all sounds great, but It makes me wonder, how do we know it's working for our good? Where's the proof?
    Love, Sally


    "The best way out is always through". Robert Frost






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      #3
      I guess it's whatever floats your boat. I watched the video and found it hard to grasp the idea that parts of me might be "rusting" due to oxidative stress....

      These are the ingredients in Protandim according to its Website:

      The following is a list of Protandim ingredients:
      Proprietary Blend 675 mg:
      • Milk thistle extract (Silybum marianum) (seed)
      • Bacopa extract (Bacopa monnieri) (aerial part)
      • Ashwagandha (Withania somnifera) (root)
      • Green tea extract (Camellia sinensis) (leaf)
      • Turmeric extract (Curcuma longa) (rhizome)

      Additional ingredients: calcium, croscarmellose sodium, magnesium stearate, microcrystalline cellulose, modified cellulose, silica, stearic acid.
      Protandim is 100% vegetarian–free of gluten, wheat, dairy, gelatin and yeast.

      *These statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration.
      And taking it will set you back $30-40 a month, but it's only money...

      I think it's a good idea to steer clear of most supplements. They can be sold without any FDA oversight.
      SPMS diagnosed 1980. Avonex 2001-2004. Copaxone 2006-2009. Glatopa (glatiramer acetate = Copaxone) 12/20 - 3/19/24.

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        #4
        We have no physical proof that anything works in the long run so we only have proof if the treatment makes us feel better. All of the treatments I have received have only made me feel worse! All the BigPharma drugs just treat symptoms and some, as you know, actually do cause harm. You can research the articles on "oxidative stress" (it is real) and the articles on "protandim" (herbs) by going to the website of government research. These articles have been published in a recognized government medical publication. As far as the FDA is concerned in policing our BigPharma drugs.....they usually find the problems after people have been harmed by them....then they will warn us of the potential harm. Remember the swine flu vaccines of 1997? Unfortunately, I was one of the trusting guinea pigs that was injected by my government (with approval by the FDA) before it began to harm people. Some people actually died from the vaccine. I do not trust the FDA to protect my health. If I can feel better by spending $50.00 a month for the rest of my life it would be money well spent!

        I was hoping to hear from someone who will read the articles and watch the videos and give me their opinion. There are a number of testimonies via You Tube from people who have taken Protandim and got good results from it. In fact there is one video which has a testimony from a women who was taking a number of drugs for the symptoms of MS and was able to get off all of them in 8 weeks time. There are many supplements sold over the counter to millions and millions of people who take them on a regular basis. If they were harming people I'm certain our FDA would step up and issue a warning and take the supplement off the market. They did this many years ago when one source of L-trptophan was found to have a foreign substance in it which did cause some people to get sick. The FDA would be happy to take all the supplements off the market.

        I prefer to look into everything with an "open mind" before I pass judgement. These herbs have been used for thousands of years by other cultures (Chinese & Indian medicine) without the approval of the FDA. After many years spent in doctor's offices and numerous treatments (none of which have worked) I am looking at complimentary and alternative medicine. Our current health care system is not the best in the world but is driven by the greed of BigPharma, insurance, and doctors. It is a discombobulated system where you have a PCP who sends you out to multiple other specialists to treat whatever body part is dis-eased and no one is treating the whole person. In fact, as I have found out the specialists do not even talk to each other about the patient!

        Here is an article written by the University of Maryland Medical Center which validates the use of alternative treatments in patients with MS. It covers supplements/herbs as well as other modalities of treatment and states, "A comprehensive treatment plan for MS may include a range of complimentary and alternative therapies." How many doctors even recommend treatment with nutritional supplements or ask a patient about their diet? They don't because they have not been trained in nutrition and they are not trained in preventive medicine. They are only trained to treat a patient's symptoms after they have acquired a disease for which they have no cure. It's a win-win situation for the doctors, BigPharma, and the insurance companies because they can keep you coming back forever for more drugs and more tests, which simply means more money in their pockets.

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        Here are the peer-reviewed articles

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        Here is the video with Montel Williams, Dr. McCord, and Dr. Perlmutter

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        Here is the video with Lisa the women with MS

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        This is a video in which Dr. McCord explains "How Protandim-NrF2 Works." He mentions that it reverses scarring in cystic fibrosis so that got my attention as scarring in the brain is what MS causes which is the same as lesions.

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        ***Sal & Agate, Do your research with the websites that I have provided and then tell me what you think about this product.....In the meantime, I have started taking Protandim. If anyone is interested in hearing my results, I will come back to this forum and let you know.


        Gabriella
        Last edited by Gabriella7; 07-01-2012, 09:05 PM. Reason: grammer, spelling, etc.
        Progressive/Relapsing MS, Myasthenia Gravis, Spinal Stenosis, Degenerative Disc Disease, Diabetes, Hypertension, Hashimoto's Thyroiditis
        Advocate for ADA, Artist's Community for Change, ADAPT, Universal Living in Place, HopeKeepers, Complementary and Alternative Medicine

        "Life is mostly froth and bubble, two things stand like stone. Kindness in another's trouble, Courage in your own"........Adam Lindsay Gordon

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          #5
          Gabriella, how long have you been taking it? Let us know if you do think you see results of any kind.

          I watched a lot of the videos and find it to be interesting. Also, milk thistle, green tea and tumeric are all supposed to be good for you. I don't know
          anything about the other two ingredients.

          Why don't they sell this in the drug stores or health food stores? Or do they and somehow I am missing that?

          Please keep us informed, and thanks for the information.
          Virginia

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            #6
            Hi Virginia, I have only been taking it for the past two days after doing a lot of reading about the different herbs all of which are beneficial to health. I watched one video that reported Protandim is in GNC stores but I ordered mine from Amazon after watching Montel's video several months ago. I waited until I was off the IVIG infusions as I did not want to complicate the results. The IVIG infusions I received did nothing for me and the doctor wanted to stop them. His words were "He didn't want to cause me any more harm". My kidney function tests were climbing above the normal range.

            It will take a while before I will be able to report any benefits as one video says that results take at least two weeks to show on the T-bar blood work the researchers are doing. I decided not to go for T-bar blood tests but just to have the normal blood work that my PCP does to keep up with progress. Research is ongoing at several universities and is being funded by the universities. Since herbs are a natural God given treatment Big Pharma is not interested in spending money on research as they would not be able to get a patent for exclusive rights on a natural substance. Dr. McCord who has been researching these herbs for the past 40 years has been able to get a patent on the combination and quantities for the product.

            If anyone wants to research the herbal ingredients go to the google search engine and enter the name of the herb. Herbal medicine has been around for thousands of years. If you want to research dietary supplements on the National Institutes of Health here is the site:

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            It takes about 8 weeks to get the full benefit according to what I have read.

            Gabriella
            Last edited by Gabriella7; 07-03-2012, 07:28 PM.
            Progressive/Relapsing MS, Myasthenia Gravis, Spinal Stenosis, Degenerative Disc Disease, Diabetes, Hypertension, Hashimoto's Thyroiditis
            Advocate for ADA, Artist's Community for Change, ADAPT, Universal Living in Place, HopeKeepers, Complementary and Alternative Medicine

            "Life is mostly froth and bubble, two things stand like stone. Kindness in another's trouble, Courage in your own"........Adam Lindsay Gordon

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              #7
              Gabriella,
              Please keep us posted on your results. Wishing you positive results.
              Jan
              "never let it be too late"

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                #8
                Since the above site does not work you will have to google it if you want to read.......

                Gabriella
                Last edited by Gabriella7; 07-04-2012, 07:59 PM.
                Progressive/Relapsing MS, Myasthenia Gravis, Spinal Stenosis, Degenerative Disc Disease, Diabetes, Hypertension, Hashimoto's Thyroiditis
                Advocate for ADA, Artist's Community for Change, ADAPT, Universal Living in Place, HopeKeepers, Complementary and Alternative Medicine

                "Life is mostly froth and bubble, two things stand like stone. Kindness in another's trouble, Courage in your own"........Adam Lindsay Gordon

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                  #9
                  Good luck with the Protandim, Gabriella. I'm sure many here, including me, would be interested in knowing how it goes.

                  When I said it's a question of whatever floats your boat, I didn't mean to sound dismissive. I meant that with a disorder as complicated and unpredictable as MS is, we all have to find whatever works for us--even if the remedies we choose seem strange or unacceptable to others.
                  SPMS diagnosed 1980. Avonex 2001-2004. Copaxone 2006-2009. Glatopa (glatiramer acetate = Copaxone) 12/20 - 3/19/24.

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                    #10
                    I stopped in the GNC store today to see if they are selling Protandim. The video that I watched that mentioned it was in GNC was an earlier one. The sales person said they did have it for sale over 3 years ago but GNC decided the profit margin was not enough for them so they stopped selling it. The sales person did say it sold very well and they had repeat customers for it. You have to order it from the company or Amazon.

                    Gabriella
                    Progressive/Relapsing MS, Myasthenia Gravis, Spinal Stenosis, Degenerative Disc Disease, Diabetes, Hypertension, Hashimoto's Thyroiditis
                    Advocate for ADA, Artist's Community for Change, ADAPT, Universal Living in Place, HopeKeepers, Complementary and Alternative Medicine

                    "Life is mostly froth and bubble, two things stand like stone. Kindness in another's trouble, Courage in your own"........Adam Lindsay Gordon

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                      #11
                      I am kind of interested, but waiting to see what happens with you for one thing.
                      Virginia

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                        #12
                        Virginia, I am not on any DMD's but if I were, I would discuss taking supplements with my doctor. He may not know anything about herbs and you may need to go to an integrative biological doctor if you can find one. You know that what helps one person may not help another and we are all different in how we react. As I have reached a point where I wanted to try alternatives because the main stream medical treatments have not worked for me....Solumedrol, Avonex, and IVIG...these conventional treatments might help you.

                        I don't want anyone to get the idea that I am promoting Protandim to the exclusion of other advice. My doctor is stumped and has not offered me any other treatments at this time.

                        Gabriella
                        Last edited by Gabriella7; 07-08-2012, 08:53 PM.
                        Progressive/Relapsing MS, Myasthenia Gravis, Spinal Stenosis, Degenerative Disc Disease, Diabetes, Hypertension, Hashimoto's Thyroiditis
                        Advocate for ADA, Artist's Community for Change, ADAPT, Universal Living in Place, HopeKeepers, Complementary and Alternative Medicine

                        "Life is mostly froth and bubble, two things stand like stone. Kindness in another's trouble, Courage in your own"........Adam Lindsay Gordon

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                          #13
                          I wonder if I just took the ingredients on next visit and let him see what is in it then maybe he could tell me if it would be alright for me to take along
                          with my other meds, especially the DMD I take. The only alternatives I take are Omega 3s, vitamin D3, and when I remember I take my calcium and magnesium
                          at night. So I am really not taking any vitamins.
                          Virginia

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                            #14
                            That would be a good idea and hopefully if he doesn't know he will look up the herbal supplements and see if there are any counter indications to taking them with the Rebif.

                            Gabriella
                            Progressive/Relapsing MS, Myasthenia Gravis, Spinal Stenosis, Degenerative Disc Disease, Diabetes, Hypertension, Hashimoto's Thyroiditis
                            Advocate for ADA, Artist's Community for Change, ADAPT, Universal Living in Place, HopeKeepers, Complementary and Alternative Medicine

                            "Life is mostly froth and bubble, two things stand like stone. Kindness in another's trouble, Courage in your own"........Adam Lindsay Gordon

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                              #15
                              So far, I have taken it off and on for over a week. In the beginning there is a de-tox effect and I stop when that happens for a couple of days and then restart again. If you have been through a cleanse with herbals you know what I am talking about. Not anything else to report.

                              I do have fasting blood work next week so I'll report back if anything has changed on those values.

                              Gabriella
                              Progressive/Relapsing MS, Myasthenia Gravis, Spinal Stenosis, Degenerative Disc Disease, Diabetes, Hypertension, Hashimoto's Thyroiditis
                              Advocate for ADA, Artist's Community for Change, ADAPT, Universal Living in Place, HopeKeepers, Complementary and Alternative Medicine

                              "Life is mostly froth and bubble, two things stand like stone. Kindness in another's trouble, Courage in your own"........Adam Lindsay Gordon

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