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    #16
    Did you ever try a musical instrument? Or singing?
    SPMS diagnosed 1980. Avonex 2001-2004. Copaxone 2006-2009. Glatopa (glatiramer acetate = Copaxone) 12/20 - 3/19/24.

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      #17
      I did have piano lessons at prep school. I was so bad that in the 5 years of having lessons I wasn't good enough to try for the lowest grade. When I was 12 I got into the choir at prep school. I was never considered for the choir at public school. In my vocal prime I was an above average singer, not a really good one.
      Yet inside there is this perpetual nagging doubt;
      the feeling we are possessed by a 'subtle lack of togetherness''.

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        #18
        If you lasted through piano lessons for 5 years, you surely gave them a try. It sounds as is there was some kind of a ranking system going on? Too bad if you were put in a situation where you were compared to other piano students. That would have discouraged me very fast. I never had the faintest idea how other piano students were doing.
        SPMS diagnosed 1980. Avonex 2001-2004. Copaxone 2006-2009. Glatopa (glatiramer acetate = Copaxone) 12/20 - 3/19/24.

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          #19
          Here’s the clean, structured overview of piano grades — the whole system, how it works, what each level means, and how long it typically takes to move through it.
          The short version


          Piano grades run from Initial → Grade 1 → Grade 8 → Diplomas.
          Grades 1–5 build core musicianship; Grades 6–8 are advanced; Diplomas are professional‑level.
          The full structure

          Pre‑grade
          • Initial Grade / Prep Test
            For absolute beginners. Focus on simple pieces, basic technique, and confidence.

          Grades 1–3: Early Foundation
          • Hands together, simple scales, basic pedalling
          • Reading improves; coordination develops
          • Typical pieces: simple classical, folk tunes, early jazz

          Equivalent level: beginner to early intermediate.
          Grades 4–5: Intermediate Musicianship
          • More complex rhythms and key signatures
          • Faster scales and arpeggios
          • Expressive control and phrasing become important
          • Grade 5 Theory is often required before taking Grade 6 practical (ABRSM)

          Equivalent level: solid intermediate.
          Grades 6–8: Advanced Performance
          • Wide dynamic range, stylistic interpretation
          • Virtuosic technique begins (octaves, fast passagework, voicing)
          • Mature musical understanding required
          • Grade 8 is a serious achievement — roughly the level of a strong sixth‑form musician

          Equivalent level: advanced.
          Post‑Grade 8 Diplomas


          For those aiming at professional or semi‑professional musicianship.
          • DipABRSM / ATCL — undergraduate‑level performance
          • LRSM / LTCL — advanced undergraduate
          • FRSM / FTCL — conservatoire‑level mastery

          ⏱️ How long does it take?


          This varies hugely, but typical ranges:
          • Grade 1: 1–2 years from starting
          • Grades 1–5: 5–7 years total
          • Grades 6–8: another 3–5 years
          • Diplomas: 1–3 years per level

          Adults often progress faster because of better discipline and understanding.
          It was what they called an 'extra curricula activity'. I just had zero aptitude for it. Did you ever have pupils/students you knew were bright, but that wasn't reflected by their academic performance? I was that type of pupil/student.During my school years,1961-1975, there was no help and support for pupils/students like me. There was no 2e then.
          Yet inside there is this perpetual nagging doubt;
          the feeling we are possessed by a 'subtle lack of togetherness''.

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