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    #16
    Originally posted by Howie View Post
    This trial was based on a cannabis based drug. I can't imagine the dose they were given to kill him. I would hold the people who ran this trial legally responsible. They just wanted to push the limit to see how much was too much. They found out, at the expense of someone's life!
    I'm not sure where that information came from but according to the article in your link,

    Reports that the drug is a cannabis-based painkiller have been denied by the health ministry.
    An article in the New York Times (January 15) says:

    The drug is intended to help with mood, anxiety and motor problems linked to neurodegenerative diseases by having an effect on the endocannabinoid system, a set of brain receptors. Of 128 participants, 90 were given the drug, and the rest a placebo.
    and

    Contrary to several reports in the French news media, the drug was not a cannabis-based painkiller, Ms. Touraine said.
    Bial identified the drug as an inhibitor of an enzyme known as FAAH, or fatty acid amide hydrolase. Other FAAH inhibitors have been tested safely in Phase 1 and Phase 2 clinical trials, said Andrea G. Hohmann, a professor of neuroscience at Indiana University who studies the endocannabinoid system and pain.
    Here's a link to that article (but it might not work):

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      #17
      Wow, so what was the trial really about. I got the article I posted from the MSN news on my computer. Thanks Agate.
      "Given the millions of billions of Earth-like planets, life elsewhere in the Universe without a doubt, does exist."

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        #18
        Originally posted by Howie View Post
        Wow, so what was the trial really about. I got the article I posted from the MSN news on my computer. Thanks Agate.

        It wasabout making mullah , what else?
        Love, Sally


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          #19
          Should've just given them marijuana. They'd still be alive.

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            #20
            Originally posted by Howie View Post
            Has anyone heard of any doctors or a neuro that actually have MS? That would be someone I would want to treat me.
            When I was a kid, my violin teachers son was doing research at Yale on MS. The son then developed MS and became completely incapacitated. I never forgot it. This was about 58 years ago.

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              #21
              What a strange turn of events!
              "Given the millions of billions of Earth-like planets, life elsewhere in the Universe without a doubt, does exist."

              Albert Einstein

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                #22
                Originally posted by Howie View Post
                Has anyone heard of any doctors or a neuro that actually have MS? That would be someone I would want to treat me.
                Well, there's this doctor who wrote a book--Lisa I. Iezzoni, and the book is WHEN WALKING FAILS: MOBILITY PROBLEMS OF ADULTS WITH CHRONIC CONDITIONS (2003).

                A bit about her here:

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                  #23
                  An interesting read. Thanks Agate!
                  "Given the millions of billions of Earth-like planets, life elsewhere in the Universe without a doubt, does exist."

                  Albert Einstein

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by Howie View Post
                    French drug trial disaster leaves one brain dead, five injured
                    By Matthias Blamont
                    Reuters - Reuters - ‎Friday‎, ‎January‎ ‎15‎, ‎2016
                    One person has been left brain dead and five others are in serious condition after taking part in a clinical trial in France of an experimental painkiller made by Portuguese drug company Bial, the French Health Ministry said on Friday.


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                    And I believe that these were the healthy volunteers not afflicted by the condition the med intended to treat.

                    These were just perfectly healthy people testing the drug for safety.

                    Guess it failed at the first instance. Very sad for these altruistic people who had nothing to gain but a little extra cash in their pocket.
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                      #25
                      It is very sad. Brain dead is DEAD! I expect some lawsuits will follow, and they should!
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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Howie View Post
                        It is very sad. Brain dead is DEAD! I expect some lawsuits will follow, and they should!
                        Some people think that is up for debate and/or it is commonly misdiagnosed when in reality the person is in PVS(could be wrong). Regardless it is TERRIBLE and yes lawsuits should follow!
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                          #27
                          I had to look up PVS. I dun learnt somethin!
                          "Given the millions of billions of Earth-like planets, life elsewhere in the Universe without a doubt, does exist."

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                            #28
                            Not hungry, just are, but that bread sounds good
                            Had a zucchini snack bread with onion n stuff that
                            was delicious ...mmmmmmm!
                            Love, Sally


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                              #29
                              French drug trial volunteer dies - hospital

                              Reuters - Reuters - ‎Sunday‎, ‎January‎ ‎17‎, ‎2016
                              A man left brain dead after a drug trial in northwest France died on Sunday, said the hospital where he was being treated.


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                                #30
                                This is so sad.
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